1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:07,000 I'd like to introduce Mr. Gray Barker. 2 00:00:12,160 --> 00:00:19,160 I'd like to welcome all of you and also the FBI agent who is here in the audience, a visitor from space, an elegant big who it is reported 3 00:00:30,000 --> 00:00:49,000 can walk among us unnoticed and disguised and be taken for ordinary humans. And also I want to say hello to the two men in black in the audience disguised as far extinguishers. 4 00:00:49,000 --> 00:01:18,000 John Keel is responsible for really publicizing the men in black, I think. People blame me for them because I was the first person to write or get credit anything about them. And this was a book. They knew too much about flying saucers back in 1956, in which I told, among other things, about a man in Bridgeport, Connecticut named Al Vendor, who had a big flying saucer. 5 00:01:19,000 --> 00:01:43,000 or a UFO organization and had members all over the world. Suddenly he closed down this club and sent all the unexplained memberships back without any explanation. When he was contacted, he told us about being hushed up by some mysterious visitors. 6 00:01:43,000 --> 00:02:12,000 Now I'm not going to dwell on this right at the moment because the film I'm going to show is going to tell the story of Al Vendor and his encounters with the men in black. But as a background, I thought I would mention that. People ask me, well, if you are writing so much and talking and making speeches about the men in black, they are obviously some sort of a man in black. 7 00:02:13,000 --> 00:02:33,000 They are sort of strange persons. We don't know where they're from. Some people think they're from the UFOs. Others think they may be from the inner earth. Others from the intelligence community. They say, if you are bearing down so hard on the men in black, what if they hush you up? Like they hushed so many other people up. 8 00:02:33,000 --> 00:02:43,000 And I don't know exactly what the explanation can be. One good one is that I probably just don't know all that much and they're not too worried about me. 9 00:02:43,000 --> 00:03:01,000 Another is what I would rather think is the case. When I was visiting Mr. Bender, the fellow who had to run in with the men in black back in the 1950s, this was before that experience and he was doing gun hoe with ill always research. 10 00:03:02,000 --> 00:03:14,000 Some of us visited him in Bridgeport. He lived below and that was before he was married. But he had a sort of housekeeper who came in, maybe he was twice away, he could be straightened up and help them some. 11 00:03:14,000 --> 00:03:22,000 Maybe he did a love cooking and that sort of thing for them. I got to talking to the housekeeper and she drew me to one side. 12 00:03:22,000 --> 00:03:35,000 And she looked at me in a very peculiar manner and said, weirdly, you know, I can read the human aura and I can see a protective blue shield around you. 13 00:03:35,000 --> 00:03:44,000 Well, that was a many years ago and I wasn't quite as sophisticated about all these things I am now. And I sort of laughed it off to myself. 14 00:03:44,000 --> 00:03:51,000 But at least the men in black, nor any of the other things like abductions, haven't really happened to me. 15 00:03:51,000 --> 00:04:05,000 At the same time, the landlady said as an afterthought, looking toward Bender and hooseproamed me with a frown, she says, I fear for Al because he has a very bad aura. 16 00:04:05,000 --> 00:04:16,000 I'll call this talk the notorious three because the three men in black are certainly very notorious and very interesting. 17 00:04:16,000 --> 00:04:29,000 I'd like to get into the different forms they seem to take. And obviously it's a pretty complex type of thing that they're involved with. 18 00:04:29,000 --> 00:04:39,000 Some of us get rather frightened when we think of these men in black. And I think the reason may be that we can't quite classify them. 19 00:04:39,000 --> 00:04:50,000 Now, we hear about the aliens that are reported coming out of the UFOs and I don't think it gives us the fear that something like the men in black do. 20 00:04:50,000 --> 00:04:56,000 Here is, you know, one of the cute little heads representing the aliens. That doesn't seem to frighten us. 21 00:04:56,000 --> 00:05:06,000 And then of course, you might say that Bigfoot and I think that Bigfoot is definitely connected with the UFO phenomenon. 22 00:05:06,000 --> 00:05:15,000 Bigfoot at first glance might be seen to be more frightening because he's about all your 10 feet tall and is hairy like an ape. 23 00:05:15,000 --> 00:05:20,000 Sometimes they have ugly fangs and a terrible soft uric type odor. 24 00:05:21,000 --> 00:05:30,000 But at least Bigfoot is at least for me more of a physical harm. We can say, well, he's probably an experimental animal. 25 00:05:30,000 --> 00:05:43,000 These euthanauts release from the flying saucers and then maybe give them tests later and monitor them to see how they get along in our atmosphere. 26 00:05:43,000 --> 00:05:51,000 Of course, the very unusual thing about the big feet is that like some of the UFOs themselves, they can seem to just vanish all of a sudden, 27 00:05:51,000 --> 00:05:59,000 especially when they're shot at and hit with bullets. You never, the carcass is never there when you get to pick it up. 28 00:05:59,000 --> 00:06:04,000 And it seems to be a part of this very strange flying saucer phenomenon. 29 00:06:04,000 --> 00:06:15,000 So we can classify Bigfoot as maybe some sort of a physical or a pair of physical entity, but still we don't know quite who the men in black are. 30 00:06:15,000 --> 00:06:25,000 Now, their connections with UFOs is not just direct. We haven't seen them getting in or out of one, to my knowledge. 31 00:06:25,000 --> 00:06:35,000 But generally, many people, after having particularly close sightings of UFOs in their daytime, just not some light in the sky, 32 00:06:35,000 --> 00:06:42,000 but close up where they might see windows and something good to tell, especially where they have pictures of them, 33 00:06:42,000 --> 00:06:52,000 have been visited by three men usually, and they usually dress in black clothing, sometimes even black hats. 34 00:06:52,000 --> 00:07:04,000 And these people are sort of threatened not to tell about their sightings or to not to do various things, and sometimes even to give up their pictures if they've taken. 35 00:07:04,000 --> 00:07:13,000 It was a young boy out in Long Island in the 69 that had some excellent close up pictures of UFOs. 36 00:07:13,000 --> 00:07:20,000 This poor kid worked in a fast food place and got home pretty late at night. 37 00:07:20,000 --> 00:07:31,000 And one night as he walked in, everybody was in bed, these three men confronted him and threatened him, and he gave up the negatives of these pictures. 38 00:07:31,000 --> 00:07:36,000 And we have something in the film about that later. 39 00:07:36,000 --> 00:07:53,000 The men in black have a definite tradition about them. Besides dressing in black, usually, they often drive huge black automobiles. 40 00:07:53,000 --> 00:07:58,000 Black Cadillacs are their favorites, or can be any large car. 41 00:07:58,000 --> 00:08:11,000 And even though some of these cars that they run around in look like old models, people that have been close to them have got that new car smell. 42 00:08:11,000 --> 00:08:15,000 You know what a new car smells like. There's a definite smell to the interior. 43 00:08:15,000 --> 00:08:20,000 And it seems as if they're brand new, yet very old models. 44 00:08:20,000 --> 00:08:36,000 Almost, if we can go a bit wild, as if they've been materialized suddenly into our own kind of existence by someone who is sort of even duplicating a certain model of an older car. 45 00:08:36,000 --> 00:08:41,000 They don't necessarily have to come three at a time, or even two at a time. 46 00:08:41,000 --> 00:08:49,000 We have many good reports of very strange men in black showing up singling. 47 00:08:49,000 --> 00:09:06,000 And recently, in my book, which is coming out soon, called the MRB, I tell of a physician in New England, whose family was out to the movies one night, and when he received a phone call, ostensibly from some UFO organization nearby. 48 00:09:06,000 --> 00:09:15,000 And although he never usually entertained anyone at the house, something told him to tell the guy to come on over and he would talk to him. 49 00:09:15,000 --> 00:09:19,000 I don't have my notes on this, but this is a very weird looking fellow. 50 00:09:19,000 --> 00:09:34,000 All dressed in black, and he looked as if his eyebrows were painted on, and he had a derby hat on, and talked in some sort of a sing-song voice. 51 00:09:34,000 --> 00:09:38,000 He threatened the doctor to give up some tapes that he had. 52 00:09:38,000 --> 00:09:46,000 The doctor had done some therapy with a person who had seen UFOs and had been disturbed by them. 53 00:09:46,000 --> 00:09:53,000 And the doctor had done some hypnotic work with his person and had the tapes in this around the house. 54 00:09:53,000 --> 00:09:57,000 The strange little men threatened him and wanted the tapes. 55 00:09:57,000 --> 00:10:04,000 And when the doctor was reluctant to give them the tape, the man asked him for a coin. 56 00:10:04,000 --> 00:10:07,000 And I think the doctor gave him a dime. 57 00:10:07,000 --> 00:10:09,000 He said, here hold this in your hand. 58 00:10:09,000 --> 00:10:19,000 And the doctor held it in his hand, and the little men in black is after something, and anyhow, there was a glow in the doctor's hand and his coin just disappeared. 59 00:10:19,000 --> 00:10:26,000 And he told the doctor to the effect that if he didn't give up the tapes, that might be what would happen to him. 60 00:10:26,000 --> 00:10:29,000 So the doctor gave him the tapes, and I would have two. 61 00:10:29,000 --> 00:10:36,000 About that time, the little men in black, I say little because he's probably about to bite me tall, 62 00:10:36,000 --> 00:10:43,000 began to sort of slur down and slur his sing-song mechanical-like voice. 63 00:10:43,000 --> 00:10:51,000 As if it were some sort of an animated doll of some sort of running out of steam or running its batteries down. 64 00:10:51,000 --> 00:10:56,000 And the creature or a person excused himself very quickly and left. 65 00:10:56,000 --> 00:10:59,000 And the cynicism had walked out the door. 66 00:10:59,000 --> 00:11:04,000 The doctor saw a huge glow out on one side of his house. 67 00:11:04,000 --> 00:11:11,000 And then he, as he looked out the window, he saw a huge black car drive away. 68 00:11:11,000 --> 00:11:22,000 So that is an instance of one man in black coming and being very threatening and very even evidently threatening somebody's life. 69 00:11:22,000 --> 00:11:30,000 Here's an instance from my book, and I'm just going to read a few words to you, not all of them. 70 00:11:30,000 --> 00:11:34,000 A typical report of a Mr. Brian Leithly Andrew in England. 71 00:11:34,000 --> 00:11:41,000 And this newspaper report says, he shut down his UFO Information Bureau of Brighton, man. 72 00:11:41,000 --> 00:11:54,000 Since he opened the Bureau in Coventry in September, he has, he claims, one, been watched by a man with a glowing orange face. 73 00:11:54,000 --> 00:12:04,000 Had his telephone cut off when he attempted to talk about UFOs, received a phone message from a caller speaking unusual English. 74 00:12:04,000 --> 00:12:12,000 And I think fifth, been worried by sudden fluctuations in the lights of a house he was visiting. 75 00:12:12,000 --> 00:12:19,000 Well, when he gave all of it up and destroyed all these papers, these weird incidents stopped happening. 76 00:12:19,000 --> 00:12:25,000 And the electricity was normal and he didn't see the little man with a glowing face and everything was pretty normal. 77 00:12:25,000 --> 00:12:35,000 So this fellow became Ray Fridten and evidently was visited by some sort of a creature that seems to be something like a man black. 78 00:12:35,000 --> 00:12:48,000 Dr. Morris K. Jessup, who is going to be the subject of a fascinating presentation later on in connection with a new book called the Jessup Dimension, 79 00:12:48,000 --> 00:12:52,000 which has just come out in one of his books. 80 00:12:52,000 --> 00:13:03,000 He published a very strange account that happened in the state US State Department is that Jessup was a little bit. 81 00:13:03,000 --> 00:13:07,000 He was a scientist, I guess not a writer or an editor, but not a writer and editor. 82 00:13:07,000 --> 00:13:12,000 He was a little bit sloppy on giving proper credit as to where this came from. 83 00:13:12,000 --> 00:13:19,000 The clipping that he printed in the year of the annual only says it was from Grinnell's column. 84 00:13:19,000 --> 00:13:25,000 GRI and any LLS I believe it was column started out by the columnist. 85 00:13:25,000 --> 00:13:34,000 Evidently, I would think maybe a small town newspaper columnist who was in Washington rubber knocking and visiting all the public buildings. 86 00:13:34,000 --> 00:13:38,000 Well, it came time to visit the State Department, of course, there's not much to see there. 87 00:13:38,000 --> 00:13:55,000 So he did walk up into the huge lobby of this building and there was a security guard started watching him because I guess I sort of watched people come in there because there's not an official tour of any sort available. 88 00:13:55,000 --> 00:14:02,000 The Tennessee security guard came toward him to ask him who he's looking for. 89 00:14:02,000 --> 00:14:07,000 Suddenly the elevator opened and the guard turned his attention to the elevator and coming out. 90 00:14:07,000 --> 00:14:21,000 The elevator were two men evidently State Department escorts and their traditional gray suits, I guess, double breasted and three other men walking with them. 91 00:14:21,000 --> 00:14:25,000 But the three other men stuck me, struck me as a little odd. 92 00:14:25,000 --> 00:14:34,000 They wore long black clothes, big slouch hats with white brim, hair down over their faces and carried portfolios. 93 00:14:35,000 --> 00:14:41,000 They looked for all the world like cartoon representations of cloaked and died response. 94 00:14:41,000 --> 00:14:50,000 I suppose that they were some sort of he thought it might be some sort of foreign diplomats, but the floor was marble and highly polished. 95 00:14:50,000 --> 00:15:00,000 If anyone would know this visitor there on the public mind us and suddenly one of these strange men and black slipped and fell. 96 00:15:00,000 --> 00:15:08,000 And the man fell right near the person that's writing the column and he says being closest to him. 97 00:15:08,000 --> 00:15:15,000 I scooped up the portfolio and was the first to help raise him to his feet grasping his arms. 98 00:15:15,000 --> 00:15:18,000 I hoisted him from the floor. 99 00:15:18,000 --> 00:15:21,000 He seemed to be astonishingly weak in the knees. 100 00:15:22,000 --> 00:15:30,000 His companions stood about rather flustered but their faces curiously impassive. 101 00:15:30,000 --> 00:15:36,000 They didn't express any emotion and the man who fell his face never seemed to alter expression. 102 00:15:36,000 --> 00:15:50,000 Just that time, two State Department people that were escorting these three men ran up and took over the man and he had helped up and sort of rushed him out of there. 103 00:15:50,000 --> 00:15:52,000 And he can clear it. 104 00:15:52,000 --> 00:15:56,000 And if you ever find this book, you can read the rest of it hopefully. 105 00:15:56,000 --> 00:16:09,000 He can prove by saying that he got the most unusual feeling that that the creature that he picked up that underneath the suit that he was very wooly. 106 00:16:09,000 --> 00:16:11,000 I don't know how I get that feeling through the suit. 107 00:16:11,000 --> 00:16:22,000 There was a wooly wooly creature instead of a person and he was sure it was wearing a mask because there was some sort of a fastener to the back of the head. 108 00:16:22,000 --> 00:16:24,000 So there's a real good thing for you. 109 00:16:24,000 --> 00:16:29,000 The men in black, you always look weird and it can also be a misnomer. 110 00:16:29,000 --> 00:16:31,000 But I think it's a part of the same tradition. 111 00:16:31,000 --> 00:16:39,000 At least we associate these other kinds of things or people with the men in black tradition. 112 00:16:39,000 --> 00:17:07,000 John Keel first uncovered this incident of a lieutenant Frank Davis of the US Air Force supposedly who had got some people together in Pennsylvania in a small town and got them into a schoolhouse and warned them not to talk about the sighting that was experienced there about the several people maybe in the week before. 113 00:17:08,000 --> 00:17:30,000 He was not. And I know that this happened because the Air Force circulated a paper or some sort of directive to all the bases that pointing out that there were impersonators, someone in Air Force uniform evidently impersonating Air Force personnel and threatening people about you at those. 114 00:17:30,000 --> 00:17:35,000 And it was directed to watch out and report anything like this happened. 115 00:17:35,000 --> 00:17:40,000 Upon further checking, I want to identify a particular little town. 116 00:17:40,000 --> 00:17:42,000 It might identify my source. 117 00:17:42,000 --> 00:17:47,000 Here's what is in the school system there and doesn't want to get connected with this anyway. 118 00:17:47,000 --> 00:17:54,000 It was really took place at a PTA meeting at a small school in the cafeteria. 119 00:17:54,000 --> 00:17:59,000 Usually that's the place for the small school where you have your programs as a little stage in. 120 00:17:59,000 --> 00:18:12,000 There had been a sighting, a very dramatic sighting there the week before and a Air Force spokesman had requested that he be able to speak to the PTA about UFOs. 121 00:18:12,000 --> 00:18:25,000 And of course I sort of welcome this thing and a man identifying himself as Frank Davis, Lieutenant Frank Davis in uniform, got up and began talking. 122 00:18:25,000 --> 00:18:32,000 He had been accompanied there by two other evidently Air Force officers who came in a van. 123 00:18:32,000 --> 00:18:34,000 They didn't come inside the school. 124 00:18:34,000 --> 00:18:37,000 They stayed in the van. 125 00:18:37,000 --> 00:18:42,000 This seemed to be rather retained type of talk that Davis gave. 126 00:18:42,000 --> 00:18:56,000 He began by saying that reading the standard Air Force explanations that the Air Force had investigated these things and felt that they did not constitute a threat to us. 127 00:18:56,000 --> 00:19:06,000 But then he gradually got into the sighting of the past week and encouraged people to stand up if they had any more information about it. 128 00:19:06,000 --> 00:19:11,000 And then evidently people were too shy to or didn't stand up. 129 00:19:11,000 --> 00:19:16,000 So there wasn't anyone that volunteered any more information to Lieutenant Davis. 130 00:19:16,000 --> 00:19:33,000 And then Lieutenant Davis began talking further and he turned a ton of his talk into a first day subtle kind of suggestion that this not be talked about outside the community and that they should not talk to reporters about. 131 00:19:33,000 --> 00:19:35,000 Then a rather odd thing happened. 132 00:19:35,000 --> 00:19:43,000 They said that his voice, the picture of his waist got slightly higher and he seemed to talk faster. 133 00:19:43,000 --> 00:19:49,000 It was almost like, you know, a tape recording and you get on to a mistake or record at the wrong speed. 134 00:19:49,000 --> 00:19:50,000 Not exactly like it. 135 00:19:50,000 --> 00:19:51,000 This is weird. 136 00:19:51,000 --> 00:19:59,000 And all of a sudden this guy sort of collapsed and there was a doctor there in the cafeteria. 137 00:19:59,000 --> 00:20:12,000 But before you could get out there and get to this guy, these two other officers ran in very quickly, grabbed this guy and carried him out and put him in the van and they drove away. 138 00:20:12,000 --> 00:20:19,000 And I know this could be just ordinary Air Force people, but it seems weird and the Air Force explained this thing. 139 00:20:19,000 --> 00:20:23,000 Now, here's the part I don't believe. 140 00:20:23,000 --> 00:20:26,000 One of the witnesses friends was sitting right on the aisle. 141 00:20:26,000 --> 00:20:32,000 So he carried this guy out sort of supine and they carried him out. 142 00:20:32,000 --> 00:20:43,000 This witness noticed that his sock, his pants like it come up and he had a rather short sock on and from the top of the sock up the pants. 143 00:20:43,000 --> 00:20:47,000 Anyway, it was a green wire. 144 00:20:47,000 --> 00:20:57,000 I don't know whether this was some sort of electrical supply to his people, but this is a strange thing and no one can seem to explain. 145 00:20:57,000 --> 00:21:05,000 If you, you know, talk to most people about this sort of thing, you know, say you're crazy and everyone tends to forget about them. 146 00:21:05,000 --> 00:21:22,000 So we've had and we continue to have stories from people and I get maybe one letter a week from from people who claim that they've been frightened by phone calls or people following them. 147 00:21:22,000 --> 00:21:24,000 Or this is that. 148 00:21:24,000 --> 00:21:29,000 And here's one. It may not be men and black, but it's very much like it. 149 00:21:29,000 --> 00:21:37,000 And then the interesting letters I'm receiving is a one from a girl who's now sort of gone out of that stage. 150 00:21:37,000 --> 00:21:49,000 And when she was a young teenager, she was so fascinated by UFOs and probably over so that she's got many, many nights a week to stay up all night and driving around and she would see these things. 151 00:21:49,000 --> 00:21:50,000 Lots of them. 152 00:21:50,000 --> 00:21:58,000 She would have had some manicism that pulled them in so she could see them or else she might have been misinterpreting. 153 00:21:58,000 --> 00:21:59,000 I don't know what. 154 00:21:59,000 --> 00:22:09,000 But anyhow, she was very deeply involved in seeing these things and she would grab by herself, which I don't urge any of you to do. 155 00:22:09,000 --> 00:22:19,000 I think that if you're not looking for UFOs, you should have someone along with you if only to avoid the very mundane thing that happened to this girl. 156 00:22:19,000 --> 00:22:23,000 She was driving this very lonely road and she noticed that there wasn't any traffic. 157 00:22:23,000 --> 00:22:40,000 And she was hoping, how since she got off of it onto a main road when she skidded and her rear wheels of the Volkswagen went in a ditch and she was stuck there in this very lonely place. 158 00:22:40,000 --> 00:22:44,000 And she spun but she couldn't get out and seemed to be impossible. 159 00:22:44,000 --> 00:22:50,000 And it would seem to be very unlikely there'd be any help come because there was no traffic. 160 00:22:50,000 --> 00:23:00,000 But all at once out of the darkness, a huge car, I don't know whether it was black or not, she couldn't tell drove up just right up out of nowhere. 161 00:23:01,000 --> 00:23:19,000 Stop three big men jumped out of it, ran to the back of the car and lifted the wheels out of the ditch very easily, put it back up on the road without even speaking to her or having her see what they look like. 162 00:23:19,000 --> 00:23:23,000 Jump back in this big car and seem to take off. 163 00:23:23,000 --> 00:23:27,000 We hope that if we get stuck, that will always happen to us. 164 00:23:28,000 --> 00:23:43,000 Someone Dr. X, whom I talk to quite often, who's a retired university professor tells me, well, these people can't help people here or else, you know, no one would ever get sick with space people. 165 00:23:43,000 --> 00:23:46,000 And they have a rule of non-interference. 166 00:23:46,000 --> 00:23:50,000 I'm talking about the good space people, not the men in black. 167 00:23:50,000 --> 00:23:59,000 But he says, well, if you were they have their pets and if you were out on a very lonely road some night, they might come around and lift you out. 168 00:23:59,000 --> 00:24:01,000 I sort of doubt it, but I hope so. 169 00:24:01,000 --> 00:24:04,000 I never try to get in that position. 170 00:24:04,000 --> 00:24:16,000 The middle block become more complicated because particularly during the 50s, the time that time at Bender was hushed up. 171 00:24:16,000 --> 00:24:27,000 We had, I think, a great deal more interest about the intelligence communities and we have now, particularly with the FBI. 172 00:24:27,000 --> 00:24:32,000 I know this because I've seen through the Freedom of Information Act, a lot of us have seen some of those documents. 173 00:24:32,000 --> 00:24:42,000 And I do know that the FBI even was attending meetings of the Detroit Flying Saucer Bureau, a very small group up there back in the 50s. 174 00:24:42,000 --> 00:24:51,000 And even today, I think that there are some intelligence people that may be interested in what we're seeing and certainly interested in unifying. 175 00:24:51,000 --> 00:25:04,000 And that some people may have misinterpreted visits from, say, FBI agents or even CIA agents as men in black and they sort of complicated. 176 00:25:04,000 --> 00:25:16,000 And it could be that the case of Bender was a case of his really knowing something and being hushed up by the government, although he says not and gives a different explanation. 177 00:25:16,000 --> 00:25:26,000 But the government agents could not explain the men in black entirely, certainly not back through history. 178 00:25:26,000 --> 00:25:35,000 And we've had men in black as long as we've had UFOs and we've had them since the dawn of recorded history. 179 00:25:35,000 --> 00:25:46,000 UFO editor Alan H. Greenfield has pointed out that there is usually a consistent reference associating the term with the devil, the men in black with the devil, 180 00:25:46,000 --> 00:25:52,000 along with a mention of an Indian-like appearance supposedly attributed to the devil by witches. 181 00:25:52,000 --> 00:26:01,000 Greenfield has noticed that there was a concentration of such cases beginning at the time of the Elizabethan post-Breit Reformation Era of the 1600s. 182 00:26:01,000 --> 00:26:14,000 Several occult volumes classify these beings into a group of their own and refer to them as men in black, demons, devils, apparitions, or black men, or latter being the most commonly used. 183 00:26:14,000 --> 00:26:29,000 The famous witch-hunter Cotton Mather mentions a man in black associated with Indians and there was a mention of a man dressed in black during the witch trials in Salem, Massachusetts. 184 00:26:29,000 --> 00:26:40,000 And the book that I published, Virginia Grasington and Flying Sanctiurs in the Bible, repeated what may be folk war and I'm going to take this as 100% accurate. 185 00:26:40,000 --> 00:26:57,000 But according to this legend, we were looking and deciding on the design for a great seal for the United States, which appears, of course, on the currency, and it couldn't be agreed as to what the seal would look like. 186 00:26:57,000 --> 00:27:11,000 Then Thomas Jefferson was walking alone one night in his garden when he was approached by a mysterious fellow wearing a flowing black cape. 187 00:27:11,000 --> 00:27:15,000 It wasn't Frank Langella or other draconists. 188 00:27:15,000 --> 00:27:25,000 The visitor allegedly handed him an apartment on which was described the basic design which became the official seal of our country. 189 00:27:25,000 --> 00:27:27,000 I don't believe that, but it's a nice story.